fmsv ([personal profile] fmsv) wrote in [community profile] alt_fen2015-06-02 12:34 am

Various and sundry

Cedric needs one of the political people from the prison (I'm not sure who would be best, Alfred Denning or Michael Foote), and it sounds like Fred needs Tim Berners-Lee.

Meanwhile, Tosha...
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[personal profile] aedifica 2015-06-09 04:30 pm (UTC)(link)
Didn't people recover from his influence when they got away from him, though?
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[personal profile] kiya 2015-06-09 04:32 pm (UTC)(link)
That's one of the reasons I'm thinking Penelope - she can in theory play Molly over the journals from wherever they're keeping her.

And if Molly's the Burrow secret-keeper, what are the odds that she wouldn't say, "Oh, dear girl, come run away, come to the Burrow" and that would be something Penelope could show to Bellatrix....
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[personal profile] aedifica 2015-06-09 05:47 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, I see what you mean. But do Fidelius secrets work like that? I think only Penelope would be able to use the secret if Molly wrote it to her like that. And then if she did come to the Burrow, she'd be away from Rigel. (Is there anything or anyone she cares for enough that Bellatrix and company could keep it/them hostage to ensure Penelope's return?)
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[personal profile] kiya 2015-06-09 05:53 pm (UTC)(link)
I think that's an interesting magical theory question.

I think it's fair to say that if the secret-keeper wrote "The safehouse is at the Burrow, located at..." on a piece of paper, that's a security risk, and anyone who read it could get in, even if the paper were only intended for a specific party.

The aspect of intentionality in the journals interacts interestingly with that, though. Is someone reading a private message meant for someone else more like "I read that piece of paper" (and thus granting access) or more like "a person not the secret-keeper is trying to give me the secret" (and thus not granting access)?

I would venture that while the journal monitoring was working people reading the monitoring would gain access; even if the SK's intentionality was not to share that with them, the facts of the setup were such that all such messages were automatically shared with them, and thus included.

The fact that someone has to intervene to allow someone to read their private messages, though, leaves it ambiguous to me - does that intervention mean that the magic is effectively passed on by that person, who is not the SK, or is it more like "Hey, I found this note, why don't you read it?"

[identity profile] ellemir.livejournal.com 2015-06-09 08:09 pm (UTC)(link)
Certainly a possibility, but he has lost his entire family. Who would be suspicious if he is supported by the Protectorate, kept in hospital to recover from wounds, or placed into witness protection to hide him from retaliation from the evil protectorate?
A strong Imperius would allow them to let anyone make appearances publicly without obvious escort.

(Anonymous) 2015-06-09 08:10 pm (UTC)(link)
I meant "evil" Order
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[personal profile] aedifica 2015-06-09 09:19 pm (UTC)(link)
He, who? Rigel hasn't lost his family, and I can't figure out who you are talking about.

(Anonymous) 2015-06-09 09:26 pm (UTC)(link)
Galen Nesbitt, "survivor" of the purported Order attack