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The Rite to...ah... Rembody? Voldemort and Various Reactions To It.
So, grabbing that information about Doholov and talking about his reaction to the rite made me start thinking about it again. And how it differs from canon, and how that's important, and such. And also how everyone reacted.
Apparently my brain is in the mood for this kind of thing today.
I'm working more off of Lupin's report on the Pensieve memory here than Harry's report to the ISS, because it's more detailed.
So: They used Selwyn's blood as 'blood of the enemy', which makes sense, as Voldemort's 'death' was his plot, so Voldemort would probably consider him sufficiently Important. (And is naturally, much preferable to him capturing one of the Order for that purpose). However (unless I'm totally misremembering, I don't have the books handy), canonically, using Harry for that had the effect of negating Harry's protection, at least partially. So Harry may still have that (depending on whether he had it in the first place, which is a question of how exactly the difference in Voldemort's understanding of the prophecy changed events there. I don't think we have a solid answer on this?)
The bone is, I think, the only element that matches canon precisely. The Order's discussion on that was interesting--apparently that could be changed, too. (In which case, I'm actually a little surprised that Voldemort didn't go dig up a more Important (I should clarify that this is his definition of important, as far as I grasp it) ancestor to use. Maybe it's stronger with a direct link?
And then we have the substitution of Bella for Pettigrew, and the use of a finger instead of a whole hand. I'm fairly certain we're not going to be seeing more parallels based on that replacement (it seems to be more a matter of who was available and, well, Bella), though the finger/hand thing is interesting.
And...okay, again, I don't have the books in frount of me, so correct me if I'm wrong, but I seem to recall there only being three components in canon? (right, having checked the wikis, yeah, apparently there were only three components with phrases in canon.) So... any ideas on why they included that and how it affected the ritual? (Also: !!!)
Anyway. Then we've got Selwyn's reaction, which is actually an interesting consideration with how this affected people.
As for reactions: Bellatrix, naturally, was excited.. Lucius seems more worried about his own security (and, in context of later revelations, this seems to indicate he was frightened. Antonin Doholov we've already discussed/are discussing. Raz apparently looked somewhat shaken. I think that's everyone we heard from/about, if I missed someone, please say, especially since I seem to be missing at least a few of the more key figures.
Apparently my brain is in the mood for this kind of thing today.
I'm working more off of Lupin's report on the Pensieve memory here than Harry's report to the ISS, because it's more detailed.
So: They used Selwyn's blood as 'blood of the enemy', which makes sense, as Voldemort's 'death' was his plot, so Voldemort would probably consider him sufficiently Important. (And is naturally, much preferable to him capturing one of the Order for that purpose). However (unless I'm totally misremembering, I don't have the books handy), canonically, using Harry for that had the effect of negating Harry's protection, at least partially. So Harry may still have that (depending on whether he had it in the first place, which is a question of how exactly the difference in Voldemort's understanding of the prophecy changed events there. I don't think we have a solid answer on this?)
The bone is, I think, the only element that matches canon precisely. The Order's discussion on that was interesting--apparently that could be changed, too. (In which case, I'm actually a little surprised that Voldemort didn't go dig up a more Important (I should clarify that this is his definition of important, as far as I grasp it) ancestor to use. Maybe it's stronger with a direct link?
And then we have the substitution of Bella for Pettigrew, and the use of a finger instead of a whole hand. I'm fairly certain we're not going to be seeing more parallels based on that replacement (it seems to be more a matter of who was available and, well, Bella), though the finger/hand thing is interesting.
And...okay, again, I don't have the books in frount of me, so correct me if I'm wrong, but I seem to recall there only being three components in canon? (right, having checked the wikis, yeah, apparently there were only three components with phrases in canon.) So... any ideas on why they included that and how it affected the ritual? (Also: !!!)
Anyway. Then we've got Selwyn's reaction, which is actually an interesting consideration with how this affected people.
As for reactions: Bellatrix, naturally, was excited.. Lucius seems more worried about his own security (and, in context of later revelations, this seems to indicate he was frightened. Antonin Doholov we've already discussed/are discussing. Raz apparently looked somewhat shaken. I think that's everyone we heard from/about, if I missed someone, please say, especially since I seem to be missing at least a few of the more key figures.
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He tells Bella that he has "collected the valuables" after Lucius sets up Selwyn for the ambush where they took him out, is what I figure.
Raz is told to "bring yours direct to L.H.". When I was trying to figure out if this was the resurrection ritual, I confirmed that LH is correct for Little Hangleton. Raz brought Harry.
Rookwood (and Rod?) are also to deliver a package to LH.
Components for the ritual: the bone (already in LH), Bellatrix (self-mobile), Selwyn (Barty's prize), and the prince, who by process of elimination is in Rookwood's jursdiction.
Checking Lucius's recent messages confirms that Rookwood is Department of Mysteries.
Which makes sense, since they were using royal blood in wards-related rituals (as Bill discovered), which are DoM department, yes? And it occurs to me that Harry's witness and subsequent handing over of the memories to the Order means the Order has possession of memories of two rituals using royal blood, which they might well be able to do something with in the long run.
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What I'm curious about now, if that was what Rookwood was bringing (which makes sense), why there was a question of whether/how he needed support. I know they've been noting he wasn't what he was, but if it's just a case of deteriorating mental condition, having Rod to help I would think be enough. Any ideas?
And yeah, I'm rather curious what the Order does with this, when they get a chance to re-assess.
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Also, in addition to deteriorating mental condition, I think Rookwood is also suffering from deteriorating physical condition. I just figured that they wanted to be really sure that all the rite elements, particularly the royals for warding, would be in the right place at the right time and didn't want to take chances. That said, it could be something more intriguing as well, especially given that Rookwood has apparently lost control of his department.
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Huh. I was drawing the former conclusion based on him apparently losing control of his department and this. But yeah, there could be additional complications.