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adeliepenguin ([personal profile] adeliej) wrote in [community profile] alt_fen2013-06-03 05:31 pm

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Antonin's recent post, while fascinating, confused me quite a bit on my first readthrough.

Looks like, thanks to the ever confusing DoM organisation, he doesn't really know who was there, apart from (mainly) those he fired spells at.

The first line utterly confuses me. Help?

I'm reading the rest of the first paragraph as notation of which spells he hit them with (though could possibly be some reference to which rooms they were in? Probably not, but it's what I thought at first): Bonefire for Hydra looks pretty self-explanatory, given that she felt like her fingers were broken. Nihil sensorum (lit. nothing of having-been-perceived in Latin, so something causing lack of sensory function, I guess?) was what he hit Justin with, though why Justin was screaming I don't know. Just a particularly nasty side effect of the curse, I guess.

"w/B" is one thing where I have very little idea what it's meant to mean.

Infidi ("I have cut/ploughed a path into" seems like the most likely Latin translation) would be what he attacked Sally-Anne with. I'm guessing it has the same effect as stabbing someone with something sharp.

The next section looks fairly straightforward, though I'm quite amused with him thinking Linus Moon was helping. Those initials confused me a lot at first. (Especially since LM usually refers to Lucius Malfoy. The idea of him acting as distraction for them was rather odd.)

And of course, he is very confused as to the logistics of it. I don't think I want him investigating the destination of it all anymore than he has already. Fingers crossed.

[personal profile] capericious 2013-06-03 08:24 pm (UTC)(link)
OK, I guess I was ranking the conversation between Barty and Dolohov as being more reliable than the exposition from the ISS to Lupin, since they weren't actually able to see what was happening and were probably in a bit of pain/panic that might have clouded their perception.
I agree that it makes more sense for Dolohov to have killed her (and ties nicely back to when he told Seamus, after the Dark rite, that if someone has to die, then better that they die quickly than in agony.)

That said, if Dolohov had promised Selwyn that his family, particularly his children, would not suffer unduly for his mistake, then maybe that was what he made good on by letting the ISS go free? Not causing harm to innocent magical children could be a matter of scruples.

I also found it a nice little touch that when he writes his last message to Selwyn, he describes Selwyn's choice only as "ill-advised". No moral outrage for Dolohov!

Finally, yeah, I am looking forward to finding out where they went--perhaps to find out who brought the Selwyns in?--and what Barty did on his side investigation when they came back for Chloe's body.
(And call me crazy, but the fact that Dolohov says "we" when talking about getting Chloe's body back gives me hope that Barty supported the idea of not leaving her there for the DoM, even if only out of spite.)
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[personal profile] teceler 2013-06-03 09:03 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, but we didn't really have much in the way of conversation at the point after they'd subdued most of the ISS. I think that this probably happened after they met up again.
And yeah, it does.

Yeah, I think that was part of it. I think he might have also done that for Selwyn's kids even if Selwyn hadn't asked specifically--I remember his response to Sarah's 'death', and I think because of Selwyn's (former) place Doholov would probably consider Arista and Hector to be under his protection anyway. But I'm not sure.
Considering I think he was refering the the DoM staff as 'vultures', though...

Yeah, and that makes me wonder what exactly is going on in his head, especially re: Narcissa's revelation about Lucius. It could easily just be a matter of honor/respect for Selwyn, but there are possibilities, there, too.

That would make sense as a possibility. I'm kind of curious to find out what their investigation ends up turning up.
(Well, Barty doesn't appear to have the best opinon of the DoM either. --and I'm not going to call you crazy, because he does say we. And I do think that if--well, she's dead, she wasn't even involved in the main plot, and she was part of their circle, if only by extension--if Doholov wanted to give her some final respects, I doubt Barty would object.)