Who Wants to Be a Councilwizard?
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alt_fenI'm really hoping that eventually we get an out-universe explanation of the competition, with all the challenges (and what we were shown as attempts at the challenges) put together, maybe even with commentary from players! I'm finding the whole thing really fascinating, and that just makes me want more, especially the things that aren't getting written down and really wouldn't get written down.
Right now, of course, I'm curious about the most recent challenge - notably, Linus has the choice between stealing from one of two Councilwizards and merely stealing from a Councilwizard's wife, but surely not everyone would be expected to have access to those two houses. Even if all the WWtBaCouncilwizard contestants were invited to Spencer House, that still leaves Dolohov - and perhaps there are other Councilwizards to whom contestants might have similar access, or from whom contestants might have particular qualms about stealing.
Then there's an interesting question: does anybody think whoever's directing the competition (or the contestant-picking-Councilwizards working as a group, if that's where the challenges arise) expected Linus to immediately tell Dolohov? If nothing else, if anyone else was also offered Dolohov as a stolen-item-source, now Dolohov is warned! I can't decide if I want the challenge-author(s) to have been that clever, or if I hope that Linus being Linus threw a, uh, fastener-tightening charm into their plans.
(Also, I keep F5ing hoping Dolohov has replied to Linus, or has written something not to him, because imagining his consternation is great!)
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Date: 2014-04-22 11:51 pm (UTC)Which is to say, for values of 'eventually' that equal game end, yes, that data exists. *grin*
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Date: 2014-04-24 08:24 am (UTC)Draco's loyal to his mother and father; he (along with several of the candidates, actually!) is also loyal to the Order, but they don't know that (or I HOPE they don't!) His task probably has something to do with them. Or Harry?
Hydra, I don't know. I would have said she was definitely loyal to Justin, but now? They might still make her do something to him, if they don't believe the breakup thing.
Katie might have to do something to Harry, I imagine.
Seamus might have to do something to either Mr. Rosier or Padma, and Padma to Seamus or Parvati?
About Dean, I have no idea. To whom is he loyal? Can't think of anyone.
The really scary thing to ponder is what Sarah Yaxley told Teddy Nott to do. She's nuts and he's nuttier!
Did I miss anyone?
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Date: 2014-04-24 08:54 am (UTC)Re: posting to this entry just to keep discussion in the same place if any happens
Date: 2014-04-24 11:30 am (UTC)Or (I just thought of this) maybe she and George are simply having problems?
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Date: 2014-04-24 12:29 pm (UTC)Re: posting to this entry just to keep discussion in the same place if any happens
Date: 2014-04-24 01:09 pm (UTC)My guess with Pansy is she's been asked to somehow harm the twins' business, unless the sponsors were told "Come up with some way to test your candidates' loyalty and don't talk to each other about it." I don't think her mood has been volatile enough for her to be influenced by a Horcrux for this long, but the locket is certainly a possibility too.
Katie might have to do something to Gryffindor's Quidditch team - but I can't imagine they'd have her steal from or do something to Harry. Stealing from a Councilwizard is one thing, but the Lord Protector's son? We know so little about her that I don't know what might be a better guess.
Ditto Nott: I can't imagine he has loyalties anywhere except to himself and what he wants at any given moment. (Though it'd be hilarious if he was ordered to help someone as his loyalty test... "You must secretly do something nice for someone and you must have proof and they must not find out" or something, I don't think that's likely.)
Padma might have to do something to her sister or (one of?) her sister's potential husband(s? - weren't there two that her mother was considering?). I don't think the candidates would be told to directly act against another candidate yet.
http://alt-draco.dreamwidth.org/33761.html is the full list of candidates and sponsors.
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Date: 2014-04-24 10:24 pm (UTC)Is it bad that I'm kind of rooting for Malfoy/Dolohov/Crouch 's plan to work?
Ah, moral dilemmas. Gotta love em.
ETA: Spoke too soon. . Now I'm feeling a bit sorry for Rowena Robins. And yes, I did just say that.
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Date: 2014-04-25 01:05 am (UTC)I'd feel sorrier for Rowena if she hadn't tried it on with Draco. Seducing or attempting to, schoolboys is despicable in my book. I guess it's the former teacher in me.
I am dreading the end of Alternity. Assuming the order win, I will be so sad if Antonin and Raz at least don't get happyish endings. Maybe they can found their own country on the Isle of Wight.
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Date: 2014-04-25 01:45 am (UTC)I just don't know if she deserved to be lied to, manipulated, and sent to Azkaban for it.
As for the end of Alternity, ME TOO. I'd suggest that they start another one based on the books, but they'd probably be like "another seven years? NO THANKS."
Barty and Antonin: The players have done so well making us like the death eaters in spite of ourselves!
BRB moving to the Isle of Wight. ;)
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Date: 2014-04-25 02:59 pm (UTC)It would be both hilarious and keep Teddy busy. Then Raz can dispose of him and thereby clean up the mess.
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Date: 2014-04-26 08:03 am (UTC)Although there is a slim possibility that it's not Imperius but part of whatever he has been told to do for the challenge.
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Date: 2014-04-25 03:07 am (UTC)As for Testing Ron's loyalties, his brother works for Lucius, and Ron refuses to break up with Sally Anne on principle because he threatened Pansy. Maybe he thinks Ron is loyal to Lucius by extension? His friends are all people connected to Lucius.
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Date: 2014-04-26 03:48 am (UTC)Speaking of Mr. Malfoy and J. Avery, did you see this from Pansy?
I still can't say why those particular four were picked, but maybe Mr. Malfoy put him up to it, in support of his plans?
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Date: 2014-04-25 11:08 pm (UTC)Wow. I thought I was nervous about Ron's plans. :(
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Date: 2014-04-26 01:06 am (UTC)I have a vague idea that it's used in veritaserum, but haven't verified that yet either.
Yeah. No wonder Pansy has been edgy lately. (Though there still might be something else wrong, because this challenge is too recent to be the whole reason)
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Date: 2014-04-26 08:18 am (UTC)http://alt-bill.dreamwidth.org/38240.html?thread=395360&style=light
Did a search on it with the terms MLE and stretton.
Don't use Sally as a search term, Sally D is a nickname for the drug.
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Date: 2014-04-26 08:22 am (UTC)Re: posting to this entry just to keep discussion in the same place if any happens
Date: 2014-04-26 08:30 am (UTC)Is Sally's original post on the subject.
Veritaserum, other truth serums and divining the most auspicious day to do something, were the uses I could find mentioned.
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Date: 2014-04-26 08:32 am (UTC)Hmmm. Bill doesn't say anything about veritaserum, just the divination usage. Maybe I've just pulled that out of a certain orifice?
ETA: Oh! Just saw your post. Glad I wasnt' mistaken.
Wonder who they want Pansy to give Truth serum to?
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Date: 2014-04-26 09:37 am (UTC)If you add dreamwidth as a search term you can narrow the search, but I often omit it which sometimes turns up interesting things that the players may have used as inspiration. There is quite a lot of historical info on Diviners sage, which is sometimes called Diviners mint.
Including a poet Herrick who mentions it and lived at Stretton.
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Date: 2014-04-26 09:42 am (UTC)Ohhh! I did use that a few times, but I never could get it to spit me out anything useful. Will try adding dreamwidth. I searched diviner's mint and saw all that stuff about Diviner's sage. Awesome that it's a real thing!
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Date: 2014-04-26 09:50 am (UTC)Re: posting to this entry just to keep discussion in the same place if any happens
Date: 2014-04-26 02:30 pm (UTC)When I search for stuff like this, I start by searching in http://www.dreamwidth.org/search?user=alt_fen - the native dreamwidth search - but then sometimes I just end up going through the recaps one by one and using my browser's search (ctrl-f) to search for keywords.
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Date: 2014-04-26 09:39 am (UTC)I think they want her to make a dangerous divination potion, and give it to a trusted friend. Hence the comments about strange visions.
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Date: 2014-04-26 09:44 am (UTC)Has the potential to end really well. (heavy sarcasm)
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Date: 2014-04-26 09:54 am (UTC)You can't give an Order member a hallucinogen in public and expect it to end well.
And if given privately what proof would Pansy be able to give that she had done it.
Hopefully, she'll decide this is a perfect task to fail dismally.
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