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Dolohov's recent comment about how he had sworn to protect Draco and failed suddenly gave me a moment of thought - because who swore to protect Draco in Y6 in canon?

Snape.

And Dolohov is currently hung up on trying to figure Snape out. (And oh, I wish we had Snape's backstory. But who knows these things? Snape, Draco, Albus. Not the most communicative lot, them, about personal details. Oh, and Alice, who is not chatty about other people's secrets.)

Of course, Dolohov hasn't switched sides like Snape.

... though he has his doubts about things ...
... and he's completely flipped out about the inferi ...
... and now he's watching his sworn brother expecting to die ...

So, um. Those are my thinky thoughts for today.
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I can think of a bunch of scenarios for what's going on with them, but I can't for the life of me work out which is most likely, and trying to work it out by looking at earlier posts is not particularly helping.

Siz's PM to Toshenka and Raz and Sally-Anne's commentary on her discussion with Doholov seem like they should be indicative, but I can't work out of what, especially with this.

And then when you compare back to the various things we collected here...

I'm not making much sense of it all, but I might be missing something.
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That there is going to wind up being Mulciber politicking to back Weasleys against Lucius is looking more and more plausible the more horrible Percy gets.

Easter Egg

Nov. 2nd, 2008 11:26 am
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Just alerting the fen to a couple Easter eggs - you said you wanted to know when these come up.

They're related to something Lucius mentions in his most recent post.

Happy hunting!
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I love that Pansy is asking questions about how Mudbloods and Muggleborns are treated.

I love that these Slytherin kids are asking about what Magic is, where it comes from, whether it's a zero-sum game, and how children born of non-magical parents could manifest magical abilities. I love that the questions died out for a while but are cropping up again in a new mind.

And I love that Lucius has to say that the Department of Mysteries is studying how Muggles steal magic for their children: he can't muster an explanation based on "facts" that are already in circulation.

Oh, yeah, and 'Think about it, Harry': you tell him, Pansy!!




ETA. Oh, dear. Lucius concludes the comments with a response to Bellatrix: "I have no idea whence [Pansy] has conceived the notion to be so impertinent, especially on such a fundamental matter, but I will deal with the child - and find the source that is tempting her to perfidy." Cue witch hunt (as it were).
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Is there supposed to have been another Grim Truth post from Sirius? (Arthur tells him he saw his "entry last night.") If so I didn't and can't now see it. I did catch the exchange on Harry's journal where Sirius and Lucius exchanged barbs. Is that all that's meant when Arthur and Bellatrix say that Sirius provoked the attack Lucius led on the Cherwell camp?

Interesting bits and bobs in McGonagall's post tonight, too. (About the book's forgery; mention of Flitwick -- deceased, apparently -- from Molly; about the castle's protections; McG's note that Lucius is not a Legilimens and her clear anxiety about facing someone who IS one.)

ETA. Lucius talks about the provocation as though it was just Sirius' intrusion into Harry's comments thread.

More interestingly, Lucius links the disturbance in the camp with the "robbery" at Gringotts:
After the blackguard (no pun intended) retreated from the journal where he made a nuisance of himself, he apparently decided to incite an attempted break-out at Cheswell. It's all in the papers. He must have accomplices in this country, whom he induced through some method (doubtless an illicit and indecent form of magic) to disrupt the camps. Bella believes, as do I, that these culprits are the same miscreants who corrupted the Goblins enough to gain access to Gringotts and rob the bank last month. It makes sense: Their modus operandi seems to lie more in encouraging - possibly forcing - members of these inferior castes to rise up in revolt, creating chaos and bother for the rest of us.
I take Arthur's account as a truer representation of what happened at Cherwell (Lucius calls it Cheswell), which is to say that Lucius, Bellatrix and others went to the camp and took out their frustration with Sirius on the helpless captives (no uprising, no escape, no initiative on the Muggles's part, just a bit of Death Eater Muggle-baiting like we see canonically at the World Cup match).

I wonder if Lucius' linkage of the Cherwell and Gringotts incidents is more than just a matter of PR spin: perhaps the Gringotts episode was equally a matter of Lucius, Bellatrix, et. al. having done something extra-legal. Perhaps they went to Gringotts with a plan to empty a vault of something of value (the Philosopher's Stone, presumably) only to find that the vault in question (one they did not have legal power to access -- so what would their way around the Goblins have been? maybe I'm wrong) had already been emptied, though they thought that impossible, its rightful owner having been thought to be out of the country. In other words, I'm proposing that the substantial link between the camp riot and the Gringotts "robbery" might be that Lucius and cronies are the active agents in each case and that in each case they've concocted a story of insurgent lawlessness to cover their own dodgy dealing.

Also. It's not lost on me that Lucius hints that Sirius and his insurgent blackguards (a great pun) make use of Imperius to control Muggles.
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So. Let's consider what we could learn by closely reading Lucius' cv (on his user profile):
    Lucius Malfoy
    Slytherin Prefect, Hogwarts School of Witchcraft & Wizardry, 1969-1972
    Hogwarts Head Boy, 1971-72

    Board of Directors, Wizarding Wireless Network, 1973-present
    Board of Governors, St. Mungo's for Magical Maladies & Injuries, 1981-1986
    Board of Advisors, Daily Prophet, 1981-present
    Board of Directors, Nimbus Racing Broom Company, 1986-present
    Board of Directors, Obscurus Books, 1975-1980, 1988-present
    Board of Governors, Hogwarts School of Witchcraft & Wizardry, 1989-present

    Member, Committee for the Regulation of Magical Commerce, Ministry of Magic, 1984-present (Chairman, 1988-1990)
    Member, Committee for Muggle-Born Labour Services, 1985-present
    Consultant, Department of Mysteries, 1987-present
    Consultant, Department of Magical Law Enforcement, 1983-present


I'll start. In general, Lucius' career seems to be fairly conventional for a man of social means and influence. He serves his first directorship beginning a year out of Hogwarts in 1973 (the WWN) and then adds a second in 1975 (Obscurus Books). His commitments begin to multiply, though, in 1981 -- which, as we know, corresponds with Voldemort's rise (culminating in canon, but not in game, with the Potters' deaths at the end of October). It also corresponds with Lucius' transition into fatherhood and a new phase of adult responsibility, so the political and the personal go hand-in-hand as we see him expand his corporate service to include St. Mungo's and the Daily Prophet -- surely the Lord Protector's hand, not just Lucius' ambition, is behind these particular appointments.

Why does he suspend his service on the Obscurus Books board in 1980, though? If it's so obscure, surely it wouldn't have needed to be eschewed in order to make time for the bigger things ... and if it were so very obscure (and immaterial), why would he have gone back on its board in 1988? What on earth is Obscurus Books?

In the middle 80's we see a steady increase in Lucius' influence and commitments:

    in 1983, he begins as a consultant at MLE
    in 1984, he steps onto the Committee for the Regulation of Magical Commerce
    in 1985, he joins the Committee for Muggle-Born Labour Services (is this when the program began?)
    in 1986, he joins the Board at Nimbus Racing Brooms
    in 1987, he becomes a consultant at the Department of Mysteries
    in 1988, he becomes Chair of CRMC
    in 1989, he goes on the Hogwarts Board


The only thing he steps down from is the St. Mungo's board (in 1986).

I keep coming back to the gap in his service at Obscurus Books, which is (ahem) the most obscure of his "appointments," and I wonder what sort of cover operation that is.

In any case, I take this cv as a pretty neat chronology of the Lord Protector's influence over various wizarding institutions.

Thoughts?
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Perhaps one of you pieced this together immediately. I haven't.

In the comments on [livejournal.com profile] alt_mcgonagall's 17 September Order Only post, Molly Weasley asks McGonagall if Lucius Malfoy asked to see "the book" during his visit to the castle. McGonagall responds: "As for the book - no, he did not. I believe we've duped him - at least this year."


Thoughts?




Aside: the question has been raised (on the previous thread) whether to start threads for each separate topic or whether this community risks developing too many simultaneous conversations. My vote is for making new posts for each separate topic (and for fresh rounds of speculation on old topics after they've lain dormant for a while). I find this helps me navigate the community if I want to find what someone said on a particular issue. For what it's worth (and in anticipation of the day when it becomes an issue for us), I also think it's helpful to keep threads from collapsing to outline by starting a new post to continue the ongoing conversation.

BLACK

Sep. 19th, 2008 11:13 am
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Interesting update from Lucius!

I remain interested in whether the Order Only spell is working, and on its face, this post would seem (by its account of a Ministry crisis at dark-thirty o'clock; by Lucius' apparent outrage; by its assertion that the Protector's circle has been monitoring Sirius Black's posts, but that they've until now found them benign and judged them likely to alienate rather than draw readers) to indicate that Lucius and Voldemort are wholly unaware of Sirius' Order Only posts.

However.

Might [livejournal.com profile] alt_lucius not post exactly this if he and Voldemort have been reading ALL the posts all along? Obviously, Sirius expects to get some reaction: this gives him a predictable and satisfying reaction. Obviously, Voldemort and Lucius have a vested interest in bringing Sirius to ground, in bringing his threat to a quick head that will enable them to crush it once and for all: so it would do no good to tip that they are reading his secret posts, and this response robustly suggests they have not.


I'm not really suggesting that I think the Order Only spell doesn't work. I think it's most likely that it works just as billed. And I suspect that we can take Lucius at his word when he writes, "Meanwhile, this alerts the Ministry to a drawback to the journals, namely their ability to spread rumour, lie, and blatant treason if anyone is so foolish as young Black."


But.

I want to keep myself mindful that there IS another possibility. A possibility that would be fully consistent with Slytherin-style, Death Eater-ish, Dark Lordly behaviour.

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