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[lucky-guess.livejournal.com]

With Molly's post, we now know a little more about how this new timeline has impacted the Order members.

We already know that Alice and Frank Longbottom were not tortured into insanity -- this is fairly obvious, as in the original storyline, they were tortured by the LeStranges in order to find out where Lord Voldemort was. As he never went away to begin with in this time, there was no need.

Now, another tidbit -- Molly and Sirius have just let us know that Caradoc Dearborn, Benjy Fenwick, and Marlene Mckinnon are still among the land of the living. I wonder why they were spared in this time -- it would be interesting to hear more about the events surrounding Voldemort's victory and the Potters' death to figure out why these guys are still around. Oooh. I wonder if the Prewett brothers are also alive?

EDIT: That's Dorcas Meadows, not Marlene. My bad. Still, Dorcas was one of the ones that died too.

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[brimtoast.livejournal.com]

Do we know anything about how/when those three died in canon? I don't actually recognize the names at all, so good catch!

[lucky-guess.livejournal.com]

They just described how they died, not when. Benjy was blown to bits, Marlene was killed by the Dark Lord Himself, and Caradoc was missing presumed dead. Moody talks about it when he shows the picture to Harry, but other than that, we don't hear about them.

I'd assume it happened before the Potters died in cannon, though -- I figure that one of the only major Death Eater events that happened after the Potter's death and Voldemort's defeat was the Longbottoms' torture.

[brimtoast.livejournal.com]

Well... (and now I'm just being lazy by not looking it up myself, but) do we know how much time there was between Voldemort hearing the prophecy and killing the Potters? If the one change was him interpreting the prophecy differently, then his game plan may have changed as soon as he heard it.

I think sometimes that I am clinging too much to the idea of the one change being the prophecy's interpretation, though. It requires a lot of handwaving when facts like this come out. Maybe the one change was something else. Maybe it had to do with Snape? He did, after all, control the transmission of the prophecy from Trelawny to Voldemort, so if he changed in some way that could *also* account for the change in prophecy interpretation, or even the wording of the prophecy that V was given.

And if Snape is involved in this important piece of everything, that could explain why they're waiting so long to introduce him.

[lucky-guess.livejournal.com]

Oooh. Good point about Snape. He really is a lynchpin. Him and Peter Pettigrew are two of the characters I'm interested in that have been cnspicuous in their absences.

[lucky-guess.livejournal.com]

I just had A Thought about Snape and the Prophecy, related to <*a href="http://alt-sirius.livejournal.com/10256.html">Sirius's<*/a> last post.

What if the prophecy was altered somehow so Voldemort heard something like... "neither can die while the other survives," instead of "neither can live while the other survives"? That would explain why he's so protective of Harry -- he'd want Harry to stay alive to protect his own hide. The prophecy is a bit too complicated in terms of how it actually ended up working in the book for me to wrap myself around it without going back and doing some serious reading, but that might explain why Voldemort insisted on not killing Harry, but putting him under his own personal care, and getting all paranoid about people trying to kill Harry.

[lucky-guess.livejournal.com]

...it was Dorcas Medows that was killed personally by Voldemort. I always mix up Dorcas and Marlene.