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So. Tosha and Barty are definitely on the trail of the Order.

My theories on codenames:

Sophia: Acton
Mary-Quite-Contrary: Pomfrey or possibly Sprout?
Iphigenia: quite clearly Minerva
Fox: ...my money here is on Brutka (though obviously Tosha doesn't know just how close he is)

Have we figured out who The Leak is yet?

I have this lurking suspicion that the upcoming Order meeting is going to go Very Badly somehow.

Current Mood: worried

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From:

batrachian

Regarding one of the points originally raised:

How probable is it that Sagittarius is, in fact, Mundungus Fletcher? He knows about the Order, he's been out of useful contact for a long while, his canonical counterpart has a history of selling Order property for a quick buck...

From:

stinaleigh

Ooh, I kind of like (hate) that theory.

From:

cheyinka

It would certainly explain the mention of artefacts, yes, and the lack of physical courage. (And it would make Sirius, the only Sagittarius by both zodiac rendering, a very nice red herring for readers to worry about, haha.)

The question is: when did we last hear from him, and who could he implicate? Does he know Dumbledore's new identity, for example? He would absolutely be able to implicate Minerva and at least Molly and Arthur, if not also Charlie and Bill; the other Weasleys I think would be safe. (I don't think he's on the Order lock. At least I want to think he isn't, because that way the Order can keep using their journals!)

From:

batrachian

I'm not sure that there's been any sort of definitive contact for a very long time; the only references I can actually remember are various Order folks kvetching about how he won't answer the phone (or whatever method they're using). Clearly, there isn't a player journal, though he may have one and just Not Use It (like Moody, albeit for different reasons).

If he is on the Lock, though, then it's already far FAR too late for...really, everyone. And also, if they had that sort of concrete evidence, I don't think Tosha would be speculating about the unknowns he is. I think we're probably safe on that front. Barely. It's not a pleasant thought, though.

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cheyinka

Rhymes-With-Rudy has used his journal at least twice, though, and of course he gets mentioned in every meeting minutes. I think Mundungus has to have a journal - I mean, Alice and Frank have journals, and they're about as off-the-grid as possible - and so the fact that no one's mentioned talking to him by journal suggests he's neither "in the Order" nor "on the Order lock". It still gives me the jibblies worrying about it, of course.

It does make it harder to guess when he was last really involved with Order-y things, though, and that'd be important for guessing how much he can consciously or unconsciously betray.

Jibbly-making thought #2: what if Dolohov goes to Minerva and asks her something directly? Like, "did you know that Milland was being impersonated?" or "did you know that Sprout had traitorous sympathies?" or whatever. Voldemort's "gift" doesn't let him see her thoughts, but it does let him observe her, which means simply asking the question puts whoever he names in danger, if perhaps not as much as if he'd asked Voldemort personally.