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Okay, because we can't let go, either, we're starting a re-read!

I will post one of these for each month, and try to keep the post itself relatively spoiler-free, but feel free to comment with thoughts, reactions, etc., to the posts for the month. If months have particularly low numbers of posts, we may combine two months in a single post. Since this is specifically a re-read, please do not feel you have to avoid spoilers for later months in the comments.

If you need the PDFs, here is the link to September: September

Or you can read via the weekly recaps by choosing the "Year One" tag on the community, and scrolling back.

Comment away!

Date: 2015-09-17 02:03 pm (UTC)
lapin_agile: (L'amant des livres)
From: [personal profile] lapin_agile
So. I love Sally Anne's first post, which appears to have happened because the 'journal quill' started writing what she was saying while she was practising Charms:
wingardium leviosa

win gar dee um leh vee oh suh

wing ar " " "

wing gar " " "

wing ar DEE um " " "

oh bloody hell this is the journal quill, isn't it? is everyone going to be able to read this?



I wish we'd held on to the notion that the journals came with a special quill that was, in fact, a dictaquill. Because that? Would totally have let us post entries that our characters would otherwise not have put to parchment. It would have been a great explanation for Lucius' detailed briefings on Protectorate/Ministry happenings: they could have been dicatquill entries made by the quill while he was actually briefing someone or preparing himself to go brief someone.

Possibly we'd have only used it as an occasional convention for someone forgetting they'd left their quill out of its case and their journal open, but, for instance, that could have now and then caught Harry talking to Draco (or vice versa) across the dormitory so that Draco's responses were out of range, but Harry could have been more candid that way in an 'accidental' post or two.

We might have ended up in the same place anyway, with everyone growing more guarded about expressing themselves in the journals, but I think there's potential in this convention that we could have tapped, but didn't.

At any rate, it's an example of an interesting, logical world-building idea that didn't stick for whatever reason.

Date: 2015-09-17 02:21 pm (UTC)
gwendolyngrace: (Default)
From: [personal profile] gwendolyngrace
You know, we never even thought of it but you used this idea beautifully when Lana was birthing Charlotte - and it also would have helped us with more of the "action sequences" where we were challenged to let the reader into the scene but it was entirely unrealistic to think these people were fighting *and* writing in journals at the same time.

Maybe if you'd been in the game from the start, it would have had a whole different structure!

OTOH, I think the special dictaquill device seems to work better for humour than gravitas. I dunno.

I agree that we still probably would have had to grow more guarded over time, though.

Date: 2015-10-27 10:57 pm (UTC)
flourish: (Default)
From: [personal profile] flourish
I wish we had, too—mostly because it would have explained the surprisingly good spelling for the eleven year olds!

Date: 2015-09-17 02:07 pm (UTC)
cheyinka: A blob of green wax with a Metroid stamped into it. (wax seal)
From: [personal profile] cheyinka
I can see why Myrtle didn't continue having a presence in the game (though I think it would have been interesting!) but I am really wondering now, if she'd continued being around, how it would have worked for a ghost to have a journal! I guess that needed the dictaquill idea that [personal profile] lapin_agile mentioned?

Date: 2015-09-17 02:18 pm (UTC)
gwendolyngrace: (Default)
From: [personal profile] gwendolyngrace
That's exactly why we abandoned Myrtle's journal. It made no sense for the ghosts to have them.

I think, in part, this initial month or two of the game was us figuring out how serious the story was - the balance between humour/satire and taking the story earnestly. We settled more on the serious side (for which I'm grateful!) but things like the DictaQuill, the ghosts, etc. - I believe these concepts fell away as we gravitated toward a less silly story and storytelling style.

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Date: 2015-09-18 03:39 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] pegkerr
Myrtle was played initially by my daughter Delia, who was eleven herself at the time. We hoped that her authentic eleven year old voice would help us fine tune the gauge of our beginning Hogwarts students (in terms of maturity, vocabulary,etc).

However, poor Delia was quickly overwhelmed by the onslaught of messages from the players list serve and consequently dropped out pretty early.

Date: 2015-09-17 02:24 pm (UTC)
lapin_agile: (P-most)
From: [personal profile] lapin_agile
omg, Wagstaff!

I feel as if I should apologise or explain or something.

Alt_Wagstaff didn't actually exist in Y1, but when I created him (to be an example of the faux journal project MLE had got up in order to entrap petty criminals of various stripes), I backfilled his journal to give him some backstory and history if anyone went to look at his journal to see what he was about. His backstory is that he was an actual petty crook and pedlar, who got arrested and killed by MLE. MLE then eventually picked his journal out of their evidence locker when they started the journal entrapment scheme, after which he was ghost written by Kaspar Willett, one of the people in Lana's training cohort.

Anyway. Here's Wagstaff in Y1. An Easter egg that is now part of the game for anyone reading it by pdf for the first time.

It makes me wish we'd had a few more random PCs who never interacted with any other characters but were just random voices from across the Protectorate, creating the impression of wizardom's larger dimensions.
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Date: 2015-09-17 02:30 pm (UTC)
naomikritzer: (Default)
From: [personal profile] naomikritzer
I think we did a good job of referencing NPC journals here and there ("that lady in Yorkshire who talks constantly about her 26 cats," things like that). It would have been cool to have some of those journals but I'll cheerfully admit that I wouldn't have wanted to write any of them.

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Date: 2015-09-17 02:40 pm (UTC)
naomikritzer: (Default)
From: [personal profile] naomikritzer
So I'm reading through the PDF of Y1 and the thing that's really striking to me is how much chit chat is happening between people who later wouldn't have risked talking to each other. (Alice pops in to say hello to Neville and Remus.) Also, Ron argues vehemently against Protectorate ideals and mouths off to Bellatrix (that's Ron's original player, FYI, not Deb).

Remus also has a sister who went into hiding to marry a muggle, but was recently discovered. Weirdly, his sister appears to be free and not imprisoned -- in later worldbuilding, she absolutely would have been sent to Azkaban, or reclassified as a muggleborn, or killed outright.

Date: 2015-09-17 02:49 pm (UTC)
gwendolyngrace: (MidnightOil)
From: [personal profile] gwendolyngrace
Yep, and later we dropped his sister altogether, I think. (That was also the first of three Remus-players.)

It's really interesting re-reading and knowing (and having to remember) that Ron, Draco, Remus, Penny, Narcissa, Arthur - almost half the characters here were not being played by their final players yet.

I'm not sure if that's the reason why a lot of the interactions are awkward, or if it's more down to "Okay, what the heck are we doing?"

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Date: 2015-09-17 03:00 pm (UTC)
gwendolyngrace: (Sirius)
From: [personal profile] gwendolyngrace
It brings up an intriguing question of what to do with this journal. I
suppose if I keep posting, eventually some Death Eater will find it, but
it seems only fair to give them a sporting chance. All my cousins and
in-laws out there, enjoying their fatted calves, hear that? That's right,
I'm not afraid of you.


-From when Sirius gets a journal for Nigel Cullenden....

That reminds me that we had some early thoughts (which may or may not have been consistently applied) about how the journals worked and how they became linked up over time. If I recall right, I think what Sirius is referring to here is that, like friends-lists on LJ/DW, not everyone is automatically given access to everyone else's posts and f-lists. So he had a little measure of anonymity in that not every DE ever would necessarily be reading his posts. Or something.

Date: 2015-09-17 03:11 pm (UTC)
naomikritzer: (Default)
From: [personal profile] naomikritzer
Yeah, that was another thing it took us some time to figure out -- what your journal showed you. I think we assumed that everyone technically had access to everything but unless you went looking for more, the default was that it would show you your friends and family and not much else.

I think I'd conceptualize it now as being sort of like the helpful Google Now links my phone provides me. If I've looked at a blog in the last month or two and it has a new post, it'll let me know about it, even if it was 100% a hate read and I really don't NEED to see the latest post. (If I consistently don't click it'll stop telling me, but if I visit, I'll hear about the NEXT post, too...) If you looked up journals run by people in Yorkshire it may bring to your attention Popular Yorkshire Journals. Etc.

I mean, it's clear there's some element of Magical AI going on here, given that you can address your PM to a nickname and it'll usually work based on your intent.

Date: 2015-09-17 03:19 pm (UTC)
reenie: (Default)
From: [personal profile] reenie
Draco's Autumn line of bertie bott's beans included these flavors:

I have the latest Martin Miggs, as Mother sent it by
Owl this morning, along with a large packet of the
special Autumn flavours of Bott's Beans. So far I've
tasted pumpkin, cinnamon, hot chocolate, burnt
leaves, toffee apple, and roasted chestnut.


I forgot I made those flavors up, but now I want to try all of them!

Date: 2015-09-17 03:35 pm (UTC)
lapin_agile: (Default)
From: [personal profile] lapin_agile
yum!

And Martin Miggs, the Mad Muggle!

I loved and love the things we included in our wizarding world. The small magical items, the foods, the fads, the comics and books, all of it.

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Accidental foreshadowing

Date: 2015-09-17 03:27 pm (UTC)
reenie: (Default)
From: [personal profile] reenie
Bellatrix and Narcissa discuss parenting methods.

Bellatrix opines that she can't find a proper tutor for Hydra, that they all give in to her every whim, just like Rodolphus.

Narcissa says "There's nothing wrong with indulging a child, look at what a lovely young man Draco is..."

Bellatrix points out that "children cannot be raised the same way - our dearly departed sister is proof enough of that."

Narcissa: I hardly think Hydra will end up like our sister.

Pretty interesting considering that at that point, I did not intend to lobby for Hydra as a PC. It was more about giving Bellatrix a daughter in order to highlight how different Alternity!Bellatrix was than canon!Bellatrix.

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Date: 2015-09-17 04:27 pm (UTC)
naomikritzer: (Default)
From: [personal profile] naomikritzer
Oh, WOW.

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Date: 2015-09-17 06:50 pm (UTC)
gwendolyngrace: (F5)
From: [personal profile] gwendolyngrace
Bella was also a little softer, I think - but I'm not sure if you made a conscious choice to withdraw her humanity after the Unicorn hunt later in Y1, or whether that was a natural progression as she became more and more our primary heavy. But, for example, in this early post she's offering to have tea with Narcissa and shoot the breeze.

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Date: 2015-09-17 03:42 pm (UTC)
gwendolyngrace: (Default)
From: [personal profile] gwendolyngrace
Hermione's Codex page seems to have gone the way of all things. :(

Date: 2015-09-17 03:46 pm (UTC)
lapin_agile: (a_stirring_read)
From: [personal profile] lapin_agile
I clicked through to the journal and it's a broken image link there.

I wonder if we could fix that and provide that page as one of the single page shots we're supplying to deal with spoilers.

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Date: 2015-09-17 08:29 pm (UTC)
longstrider: Rainbow peace sign filled with FNCL dove, Union fist, recycle symbol and book (Default)
From: [personal profile] longstrider
It is still linked at hpalterity here.

Date: 2015-09-17 04:15 pm (UTC)
gwendolyngrace: (Default)
From: [personal profile] gwendolyngrace
Ack, and here we started with the Muggle version of the Chunnel and had to ret-con that into a wizarding one....

Date: 2015-09-17 04:34 pm (UTC)
naomikritzer: (Default)
From: [personal profile] naomikritzer
So, Regulus.

I read Reg's loss of his hand, the first time around, as Voldemort having sent him a "gift" that was basically a small explosive that took his hand off when he opened it.

But on re-reading I think he was ordered to cut his own dominant hand off, for V's amusement. Bellatrix was apparently present when it happened.

The actual sequence (and exactly what happened) was never entirely clear to me, though.

Date: 2015-09-17 04:48 pm (UTC)
lapin_agile: (meloncholy)
From: [personal profile] lapin_agile
I didn't play Regulus then and had no contact with his player when I took him over, so I don't know what the intent was there. (Rene may actually know.)

When I took him up, I decided that what happened was that Regulus returned (as Lucius and Narcissa had urged) and presented himself at Court, where he grovelled before Voldemort, who said:
Tell you what: we'll let bygones be bygones. Shake on it? Thanks for re-confirming your pledge to lend a hand to all my efforts. I'll just keep the hand here, then, as a visible token, shall I? Think I will.

Now, do stop bleeding all over the place! Barty: take him to Marlborough and keep him there until I think what I could possibly want with a one-handed follower.

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Date: 2015-09-18 03:32 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Oh, I remember now that Remus had a very different default icon: he was very sad, and half-hidden behind part of a door frame. I liked that icon; it gave the feeling that he had a completely different backstory in Alternity than he did in canon. I remembered it particularly because I had never seen it before, yet it was clearly Remus...a much more crushed, bleak, and downright cowed Remus.

Date: 2015-09-18 03:33 am (UTC)
pegkerr: (Default)
From: [personal profile] pegkerr
That was me.

Date: 2015-10-27 11:08 pm (UTC)
flourish: (Default)
From: [personal profile] flourish
It may be gauche to say that I love my own play, but I'm really proud of this Hermione comment.

Date: 2015-10-27 11:11 pm (UTC)

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