[identity profile] longstrider.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] alt_fen
In reference to Carrow's most recent post

Madame Defarge is an extremely vengeful character in Tale of Two Cities.  Takes vengence to the generational level, wanting to kill the grandchildren of the perpetrator of a wrong against her family.
http://www.sparknotes.com/lit/twocities/canalysis.html

http://www.wisegeek.com/who-is-madame-defarge.htm

Date: 2009-03-03 04:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wordsworthy.livejournal.com
Man, that guy is scary!

Date: 2009-03-03 04:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wordsworthy.livejournal.com
So what do people think will happen to the twins and Lee Jordan?

Date: 2009-03-03 05:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] aquagia.livejournal.com
Do you think there's a chance that the Carrows have had problems with Boots or Weasleys of the past? He's obviously happy that this happened, for some reason...

Just a thought!

Date: 2009-03-03 06:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wordsworthy.livejournal.com
I remember Molly telling Sirius in the comments, somewhere, that during the previous year, Carrow punished the twins by transfiguring them into beater bats, and giving them to the Slytherin team during a Quidditch match (they both had concussions when they were transfigured back.) I think they were being punished for charming the chalk board so that it would insult Carrow whenever his back was turned. But I can't remember where that was--can anyone else find it??

I think it was before Carrow actually showed up in the journals.

Date: 2009-03-04 12:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lucky-guess.livejournal.com
For a DE, Carrow certainly seems to have a fairly good knowledge of Muggle literature...

Date: 2009-03-04 06:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] travelintheways.livejournal.com
Yeah, that is something. I guess if you're high enough in Voldie's ranks and clearly dementedly evil enough, you're allowed to indulge, eh?

In a way, this could be taken as further proof of Muggle inferiority (if these writers haven't been co-opted, a la Mozart etc). The characters I can remember Carrow mentioning are Justine and now this Mme. Defarge, both obviously signs of the moral turpitude of Muggle writers.

Interesting that he's "allowed" to post about these Muggle authors in his journal, though I can't imagine anyone but Voldie daring to object. I'm wondering if these writers were co-opted after all. Man, how do you contradict something like that?

Date: 2009-03-04 12:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wordsworthy.livejournal.com
Actually, Tale of Two Cities is written by Charles Dickens, and it's hardly a ringing endorsement of Madame Defarge's beliefs. It's clear that she's the villainess of the piece. And since Dickens is all about virtue, she does get killed off in the end.

We've had one other character mention Dickens: Neville. His gran was reading A Christmas Carol, right? I wonder if Dickens is just such a famous English writer that wizards have to co-opt him or they read him anyway. He's too influential and famous--and too much a part of British culture--to be simply ignored.

Date: 2009-03-04 03:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] travelintheways.livejournal.com
Ha, okay, clearly I fail at British Lit. I even read that novel back in the day for school. Thanks for clearing that up!

I do remember that bit about A Christmas Carol, now that you mention it. And I wondered the same thing then, about how smart it was for Neville to be mentioning this great Muggle writer (especially considering the undertones of what he was saying).

Date: 2009-03-04 07:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] aquagia.livejournal.com
I wouldn't be surprised if the author's of these books were presented to students as wizards/witches, but I suppose that wouldn't explain the lack of magic and magical terms inside the books....unless they were altered?

Seems like a lot of trouble to go to, but I wouldn't put it past them!

Date: 2009-03-04 10:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] travelintheways.livejournal.com
I think the route they would go is that these writers were wizards who had to keep their identity secret, at least for the sake of publication. Though come to think of it, there's the problem of why they would deign to publish for Muggles at all. Hmmm.

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